6600gt

hey, im about the buy an XFX 6600GT (AGP version) w/ 128 DDR.. my question is, are there any masked pipelines?

They shouldn't have any cutted pipelines. The only difference between the PCIE and the AGP is the bridge chip and some AGP cards that have 900MHz memory clock instead of the 1000 MHz that have the PCIE. I just bought an MSI 6600GT AGP, it has been working very good so far, but I am definelty going to test further.

hmm.. dam :-/

My MSI 6600GT is running quite well. A buddy wanted to buy my 9800pro so I figured these looked like a little bit of a step up (in most games). Only cost me about 50 or 60 bucks and I really like it so far. If you want to use the DOT on the MSI you have to load their driver first then just update the driver with the newest ones you can. I am using the 71.24 because I was getting blue screens exiting Raven Shield. (71.22 also worked, but got the 71.24 from guru3d.com since it was the newest release, I think. All in all it is a very good card. I have run it over night twice on benchmarks (3dmark2001se looping test) and it was running both mornings ( I am using the general DOT overclocking mode). Only thing I didn't like was the drop in the score on 3DMark2001se, but most games compliment DX9 now, and that is where this thing seems to have advantages. It looked really good in RavenShield, a little better than my 9800pro.

BTW, if you didn't already know, it seems the MSI AGP card has 500 MHz core and 900MHz memory. Kinda pissed me off cause newegg said it was 500/1000, but oh well. Main reason I got the MSI was cause it was the only one with VIVO.

I think you'll only see masked pipelines in SE or light edition cards. Since the GT is the highest (thus far) core of the 6600 class of cards, it prolly doesn't have any you can unlock, if thats what your asking.

One question I have, do all 6600GT run at a 300MHz core in 2D mode, or is that only in the MSI. What ever it is, it seems like a really cool feature to me.

oh well.. even if, for example, i took a 9800SE and made it run at a 9800 pro, with no problems, i will problaby ened to spend another $50 on heatsinks and a heatpipe cooler

Quote: Originally Posted by jp197
One question I have, do all 6600GT run at a 300MHz core in 2D mode, or is that only in the MSI. What ever it is, it seems like a really cool feature to me.

I think so, all geforce 6 series card have the 2d and 3d clocking mode. About the 900MHz MEM clock, I was effortlessly able to put it up into 1000MHz, and the Core clock into 560MHz(from 500MHz) using the "find optimal frequencies" option in the Nvidia drivers with the CoolBits registry patch. I have not gotten to real overclock this card yet, but the speeds I just told you seem to work pretty good.

The bad thing is that there is no BIOS overclocking for the series 6 cards yet, the BIOS Editor does not recognize most of the options to edit. Since I run Gentoo Linux(AMD64) and do most of my gaming in it, I am obligued to run at default 500/900 clock speed since there is no stable Geforce6 AMD64 overclocking tool for Linux, nvclock tool is not too stable with Geforce 6 series overclocking yet...

Anybody know about BIOS overclocking on Geforce 6 series cards?

Thanks

What games do you play in Linux???

Moving to our NVIDIA Graphics Forum.

Quote: Originally Posted by elocal
They shouldn't have any cutted pipelines. The only difference between the PCIE and the AGP is the bridge chip and some AGP cards that have 900MHz memory clock instead of the 1000 MHz that have the PCIE. I just bought an MSI 6600GT AGP, it has been working very good so far, but I am definelty going to test further.

i just bought the msi nx600gt and i cannot seem to see what kind of temperature this card runs at?? do these cards have a temp sensor?? my 3d mode is also 500core and 900mem so far card is great!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by jp197
What games do you play in Linux???

Native:: Doom3, UT2k4, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.

Cedega(Wine):: PainKiller, Price of Persia, Need For Speed Underground 2, and many more which I already finished and don't have installed.

Quote: Originally Posted by wilks
i just bought the msi nx600gt and i cannot seem to see what kind of temperature this card runs at?? do these cards have a temp sensor?? my 3d mode is also 500core and 900mem so far card is great!!!

Yep it is a great card, so far, I hope it keeps that way...

I dont know if there is temp sensor or not , the "3D experience??" utility that comes with the card completely sucks, it is supposed to monitor the temps, overclock, etc..., but it is a browser open flash based app, which personally I dislike.

I use the coolbits with the detonators, err forceware ... overclocking is nicely done there. I just wish Nvidia integrated overclocking in their Linux drives, I am about to email them, or at least to NVCLOCK to develop faster...

Yeah, I noticed the flash based deal that was supposed overclock or whatever, seemed like a total piece of crap to me. I finally figured out how to get the newest driver and load the MSI portion to overclock, which has worked pretty well for me. Never really heard of coolbits. I really like my card so far.

One other thing about the linux gaming thing, how is it done. Are those games recompiled or something for linux... or is that version of linux set to somehow do that sort of thing. Just curious, cause I haven't really ever heard of gaming on a linux box, aside from the goofy games they give you with the OS. Just curious I guess.

The games run natively, like Enemy Territory, UT2k4(64Bits actually, soo whoohooo!!!), and Doom3 are all compiled for Linux. I run Gentoo(AMD64), so I compile most of my stuff, but since they are propietary, I have to use precompiled binaries, unless some exceptions... I also need the game CDs to extract all the data(maps, textures, etc...). They actually work pretty good, and nvidia has good 3d drivers for Linux, since the open souce nv driver is not too good for 3D.

The other games I run through Cedega, which is kind of an emulator, but not actually so, it runs Windows DirectX games by translating DirectX into OpenGL calls which can be rendered in Linux(correct me if I am wrong on this). Many games run this way, the .exe files are executed by Cedega.

In conclusion, gaming under Linux is pretty good, at least for the games I play, and support is increasing, so it is very nice!

Quote: Originally Posted by jp197
Yeah, I noticed the flash based deal that was supposed overclock or whatever, seemed like a total piece of crap to me. I finally figured out how to get the newest driver and load the MSI portion to overclock, which has worked pretty well for me. Never really heard of coolbits. I really like my card so far.

One other thing about the linux gaming thing, how is it done. Are those games recompiled or something for linux... or is that version of linux set to somehow do that sort of thing. Just curious, cause I haven't really ever heard of gaming on a linux box, aside from the goofy games they give you with the OS. Just curious I guess.

thats par for the course for msi i use their MB's also, they make a good solid and stable products but their software is usually pretty crappy!!!